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Phanoen Thung road work.. :(

02 Jul 2017 22:34 #4469 by rushenb
Phanoen Thung road work.. :( was created by rushenb
Hi all,

We found out today that km 18 to km 36 in Kaeng Krachan will be "improved" to a concrete road. The work will start this August and take around 1 year to complete. This means the road to Phanoen Thung and the campsite will be closed to the visitors. :(

Rushen

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03 Jul 2017 07:28 #4470 by Paul T
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What a pity. I suppose the 4WDers will be replaced by the Mercedes owners.

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03 Jul 2017 07:36 #4471 by bootly66
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So, there will be a great increase in traffic and speed... sadly, probably say goodbye to the leopards and R/T Treepies amongst others...

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03 Jul 2017 12:11 #4472 by onflipflops
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Will be quite a hit for the financial situation of the local drivers. First a year without any income (I guess it is not a full time job for them, but a few thousand extra baht every month is for most locals a very important addition). And when the road is finished, who will rent their trucks when people can just drive their own car to the top easily? I am sure they are not happy with this move, and if they are, I think they will find out soon enough that it is certainly not in their advantage.

Also for the birding and wildlife tours on offer it means the coming year of construction is blocking an important part of the park if indeed the road will stay closed until finished.

Surely driving speed will go up like Bootly mentioned. Just like it has on the new road to Ban Krang.
Knowing road construction workers, I fear for the forest near the road. How much debris they will throw down the valley? Let's hope they are not making the road any wider than it is.
Road work in Khao Yai ruined a pond on the Khao Khieo mountain. Let's pray they will not do the same to the pond at km27.5 in KK. But I fear for the worst.

But it's all no surprise of course. I am actually surprised it still took so long before they decided to do something, ;-)

The only positive thing is that in the future we can keep our eyes more on the forest when driving, and not have to worry about the next pothole, haha. Though not sure how many wet seasons the concrete will last before it starts to heavily degrade and create a most likely even worse situation than the current road.

Kaeng Krachan - the new Khao Yai!

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03 Jul 2017 19:38 #4473 by Geoff Potter
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And next, Ban Krang to KM 18 with bridges over the streams.....

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03 Jul 2017 19:40 #4474 by bootly66
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Think you got something there..... reckon that is a cert..

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03 Jul 2017 20:34 - 03 Jul 2017 20:35 #4475 by rushenb
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Well, what I am most worried about is that it is going to turn into a major "mist of sea" destination, like those parks around Chiang Mai. At that one park (Huai Nam Dang?), I remember they had 5-6 camping grounds few hundred meters apart.. They may start open new camping grounds for more people around Phanoen Thung. As there are not many flat places at the mountain ridge, perhaps flatten the small nature trail to begin with? :(

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04 Jul 2017 12:49 #4476 by Geoff Potter
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Any chance Paul and Eddy, with their connections to the Head of the park, could get us an insight into the rationale behind this? Their excuse may be that there was a tarmac road to the top in the first place, which is correct, and they are just replacing it after years of neglect.

This is the big issue: if they are serious about a concrete road to from KM 18 to KM 36 that's 18 KM of road. My experience has been that one concrete truck can pour about 5M of road in one delivery, that's 3600 deliveries. That's a concrete truck going through the streams and along the entrance road to Ban Krang 7200 times. The new entrance road will be ruined and I can only imagine with horror what will become of those stream crossings.

Sobering thoughts.

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04 Jul 2017 22:59 - 04 Jul 2017 23:05 #4477 by rushenb
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All.. Heard from a friend; "Rumour is that the KK road project has been cancelled due to too many complaints.".. :)

(Edited), the rumor info is from Punjapa Phetsiri, you probably know from him. He says though it is 3rd hand info, has little credibility about cancellation.

Perhaps it is good to pass our concerns to the boss? In case as soon as possible..

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05 Jul 2017 08:54 #4478 by Robby L
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This would have been thought up by someone in an office to attract more tourists and more money but the logistics of something like that would be horrific.

From seeing his sort of thing in action in other places the concrete would probably be mixed on site in concrete trucks meaning there would be a stream of heavily laden trucks carrying mix steel and cement.As has already been noted destruction of the entrance road and the road past Ban Krang.
There would also be dump areas where the concrete would be mixed and camps for the workers (Burmese).

It would be impossible to start from the top so the road would have to be widened to 2 lanes to let the concrete trucks pass to pour the next segment up the hill heavy machines need to do this. Could it be done in a year? very doubtful and imagine if the Bear or an Elephant wandered into a workers camp.

Bit of luck wiser heads will prevail.

RIP 2018 - Robby will always be remembered for his sharing of his trips and knowledge. Missed by all.

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