× Over 400 species of birds are known to occur within the Park’s boundaries, and 57 mammals. Larger mammals include elephant, gaur, sambar deer, banteng, serow, and bear, indo-chinese tiger, leopard, both common and Fea’s muntjac. Malayan tapir, white-handed gibbon, dusky and banded langurs, Asian wild dog, otter, and wild boar.

Hiking tours (GPX) for Kaeng Krachan

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3 months 2 weeks ago - 3 months 2 weeks ago #4946 by michi777
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Dear Members!

i love the tropical jungle nature and just have once a year the chance to visit.
In europe i make long hiking trips & mountainering average 2\month and also guiding other people and we have much marked trails and gpx files.
For Thailand it's badly hard to find a guide (less\overpriced\beginnerhiking) or gpx files and i need to plan it from far away and gave my best to get some.

With my research (hanks for the 2 basic gpx files from forum) and detailed track planning i could make 2 bigger hikes from Phaonen Thung & Ban Krang Camp and i would like to share and discuss them with you - see attached.
Different map layers (google roads & google earth & openhike) helped me to find some no marked tracks or see easier areas to cross straightforward.

Questions:

Pakarang Mountain Hike (32km_500hm):
1)Do you think the straightforward line (red encircled) to the walkbacktrack is possible to hike?
2)On Google Roads (just there) a track is marked and i want to walk back that one, somebody know that "trail"?
3)As 32km_500hm is much on harder jungle terrain i think not possible as a day hike and need to do one side per day and walkback same track?
---see attached picture

Thor Tip roundcourse (8km_400hm):
I made last year the marked single trail to to Thor Tip, this year thought about to make is as a roundcourse, as there is a rivertrail marked too.
1)Is this roundcourse possible and is it possible to continue some hiking after reaching the Thor Tip or it's just steep\rocky terrain there?

What you think about this track and especially do you have more tracks (send me PN or post here)?
...jonathanbkk waiting for yours ;).

Here are the 2 GPX Files:
www.dropbox.com/sh/hhqxc9udnfjdbxb/AAAus...cVxOPencuprD4qa?dl=0
Don't do them without experience, i didn't proof them yet in practical (will do in december).


Here some impressions of my european outdooractivities:

www.dropbox.com/sh/nu5nc2pppfumdal/AABBw...aKNzDDSTYte9Z1a?dl=0

Thanks in advance and Greetz
Mike
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3 months 2 weeks ago - 3 months 1 week ago #4947 by Paul T
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Your Pakarang route is in a DNP staff only area - this area has been closed to the public for about two years now and you would need permission and assistance of the DNP. Its closed because its a project area - habitat changes to promote keeping elephants in the park rather than creating HEC problems outside - hence there's a lot elephants there. I know the area quite well and I am not allowed to enter without DNP staff accompanying me. Your track is the two access roads for the DNP, both have barriers and "No Entry - Staff Only" signs posted.

I am not aware of the other trail - I've never seen a second trail from the Thor Thip carpark going north, only the regular track going west.

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3 months 2 weeks ago #4948 by michi777
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Thanks.

Pakarang Route:

So did i understand right that the Trail from Bang Kran Camp i made are 2 wild old singetrails and they pass the old destroyed ranger station?
As u mentioned there are lots of elephants, so there is high danger of attacks from elephants u think?
Are the rangers generally open to make a dayhike with you when you offer them a nice payment for?
...as it's not possible to reach them from outside and manage it before.

Thor Tip Roundcourse:
I though jonathanbkk wrote on his last Thor Tip hike, he went riverdown and that mostly just rangers go there so i thought he may walked this north track.
It was marked with Google Roads card layer, when i planned with different layers on Komoot, i send ya link of the tour as pm.

Phaonen Thung:
If somebody watch this area from air (tourplanner like www.komoot.com or www.outdooractive.com ), are u able to mark the area of the old track to try to follow?

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3 months 2 weeks ago - 3 months 2 weeks ago #4949 by Paul T
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michi777 wrote: Thanks.

Pakarang Route:


Are the rangers generally open to make a dayhike with you when you offer them a nice payment for?
...as it's not possible to reach them from outside and manage it before.


No, its closed. I think I said that already.

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3 months 2 weeks ago #4950 by michi777
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I meaned generally, not in the closed area,
As i have not really big dayhike tours as gpx file now?

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3 months 2 weeks ago - 3 months 1 week ago #4955 by WT admin
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I have not seen rangers acting as guides in Kaeng Krachan for a while now, you often see them helping people on the local walks close to the camps to understand nature but never on longer trails now.

The longer walks are not really in the Thai tourist or birders psyche and as that is 99% of the customer base for Kaeng Krachan, theirs is the norm. Other parks may be different, for example I bought a book and map of all the tracks in Khao Yai at the Khao Yai Visitors Centre.

You are probably beating a dead horse trying to get people to give you long tracks or long track recommendations. Tropical forests can be confusing places and probably no one wants to say "go off bush walking here" in case anything did happen to you and then they are in trouble as well as this forum.

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