Choosing a GPS device. HELP Needed!

20 May 2013 15:00 - 20 May 2013 17:26 #1017 by onflipflops
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Judging from the available GPS trails on this forum, I suppose some (perhaps all, ;) ) of you here have more experience with GPS than I have.
I don't own a GPS device, but am thinking of buying one.
I love exploring unknown terrain, but in Thailand's dense jungles it can be extremely hard to keep track of where exactly you are. Of course I would never totally rely on an electronic device. After getting lost once in Khao Phanom Bencha NP, and my lucky encounter with 3 poachers that helped me finding the way out, in the dark! (Another of my many unbelievable stories, haha) I now always carry a compass. Which is useful if you know where the main rivers or roads are. But I believe a GPS device could help me out more accurately and help remember the trail for a next time.

I did a bit of research myself and found the Garmin GPSmap 62s, which seems to get good reviews. It's not the cheapest, but I rather spend a bit more on the right device, than getting stuck with a device that does not suit my needs. Does anyone of you have experience with this device, and what's your opinion? You know the conditions in these forests in Thailand, so I suppose I don't need to explain what I need.
Hope it can handle humidity and has good reception. And if you know of any abilities that I should take into account when deciding, all advice is very welcome.

Thanks in advance!

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20 May 2013 16:39 - 20 May 2013 16:46 #1018 by jonathanbkk
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Paul is the expert on Garmin but I am very happy with my etrex 20 without any issues using it in the jungle

I didnt need all the bells and whistles available on some of the larger units thus I went with this model. Mine is also water resistant thus I am not worried when it rains

**update, just checked the website for garmin, looks as though they have changed since I bought mine but the one you mention seems perfect**

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20 May 2013 16:55 #1019 by onflipflops
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Thanks for your reply. Much appreciated!

What I like to do is save the trails I've walked, and add a Point Of Interest here and there (preferably with the possibility to add some text to specify the POI).
Is it possible to save all trails in a specific area (national park) and next time when you're walking in the jungle see where all the trails/ POI's are?

This might be a stupid question, but I simply have never used a device like this.
I think I don't need all the bells and whistles either. Just want to see the trails I walked before, and add new trails. And obviously I want it to work well.
I will have a look into the etrex series.

Thanks

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20 May 2013 17:21 #1020 by onflipflops
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While checking youtube for the Garmin eTrex 20, I see it seem to do what I just asked for in my previous post.
Thanks again. Now I need to find a place where to buy it here in Thailand.
I did find a place that sold the Garmin GPSmap62s, but the price of 25500 baht seemed a bit steep to me, especially since the same model sells for about 11000 baht in my home country... That's a bit too much of a difference.

Do you happen to know any store in Thailand that sells Garmin devices?

Thanks

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20 May 2013 17:25 - 20 May 2013 18:23 #1021 by WT admin
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Is it possible to save all trails in a specific area (national park) and next time when you're walking in the jungle see where all the trails/ POI's are?


Yes you can do all of that. Garmin has a free program (base camp) so you can easily manage, adjust, file and notate tracks and create your own collections.

I really like the etrex models, you can just slip them anywhere and forget about them, my old etrex is still my fav. I also use a rhino when I am doing "off piste" macro stuff, but thats because my regular exploring buddy has one too so we can become separated and still see each others location on the screen and have radio contact also. I also have an Oregon somewhere but found it a bit too "geeky", the etrex really is the best all rounder IMHO. I know Tim likes the GPS62s and they are the ones that they supply to the rangers also. All are suitable for jungle use. Just choose the style you like.

You dont really need a map if you are using for the forest, and buying in the states or elsewhere was much cheaper when I bought mine also. Hence I bought in the states. Shops that sell in Thailand and have websites are "gadgettrend" and "eagle gps".

You might want to invest in re-chargable batteries or a battery pack also. I think 24 hours is the longest you can get out of a set of batts.

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20 May 2013 19:38 #1023 by onflipflops
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Thanks for all the info. I'm actually glad to hear that it does not matter all too much what you get, it all works.

4 - 5 months ago I bought a set of Eneloop batteries. That seems to have been a great buy.
I've put them in my SB700 speedlight and even though I don't use the speedlight every day, I do use it quite a lot. Only recently I replaced them (when I thought my batteries died when I encountered the Binturong in Pangsida), but then I discovered that they actually were still functioning fine.
Never had such long lasting rechargable batteries.
I suppose they'll work great in in any electronic device.

But anyway, I haven't done much overnight trekking. So if they last a day, that should be enough for me.
Seems like it's going to be a Garmin etrex20. Hope I can find it for a reasonable price in Thailand, though so far my search resulted in 13600 baht at thailand-gps, but back home about 6000 - 6500 baht, that's a significant price difference. I will think about it how much I want it now, or if it can wait for the next family visit... Which isn't very soon...

Thanks again for all your help!

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21 May 2013 11:41 #1025 by jonathanbkk
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I bought mine on floor 2 of Fortune Tower Rama 9 (opposite Central), they did a good enough job educating me on how to use it so I just went ahead with it. The costs were not that bad compared to the USA thus I just went for it.

As mentioned it saves your previous trips, also you can download maps from this website and load them into your Garmin meaning your totally prepared for your trip.

Other than keeping me out of harms way I also like the trip statistics. It calculates how many minutes you walk, how long you are at rest, and total distance to name a few. It becomes a bit of a game for me to get back in the same time as it took me to walk out. Recently at Thor Thip and down to KU camp the trip back is always brutal as its uphill so its fun to see your times etc.

As for batteries, yes always have 4 since Garmin can chew them up fairy quickly.

Also worth buying the clip attachment, I usually prefer to have it hanging off my back pack strap for easy access

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03 Jun 2013 22:13 #1074 by onflipflops
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Hi Jonathan,

May I ask how much you paid for the device, approximately? And how long ago?
The only times I go to Bangkok is when flying in/ out of the country. But am thinking of a shopping trip for the specific purpose of buying the GPS, and if there's a lot of camera gear available, I might return home with more than planned...

Any idea if there are decent spotting scopes for sale as well?

Thanks for your advice!

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04 Jun 2013 11:23 #1078 by jonathanbkk
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I will try to look through and find my receipt, but I think it was about 13,000 baht. I cross checked it against american prices and it was only like 1,500 more so I went through with it in Thailand vs waiting for someone to bring it over to me.

As for photography stuff I have a great connection at Fotofile MBK, his name is "Oi" and if you mention you know me he will give you a sizable discount off retail. Definitely compare his prices against any connections you might have such as your home country or Hong Kong. Most of the time he comes up like roses. Reason for his discounts are because a friend of mine is a professional photographer and he has spent over 2 million baht with him, plus myself and two other friends who have given him a good income over the last couple of years so he takes care of us and any referrals.

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04 Jun 2013 21:22 #1080 by onflipflops
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Thanks again. I actually hoped it would be cheaper.
Back home the eTrex 20 sells for 180 euro.
Which is about 7000 baht. That's quite a difference... hmm, have to think about that...

And thanks for sharing your connections at Fotofile. On their webpage I noticed there are a few branches in MBK, where is Oi staying?

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